No. You should not get to avoid the attention of a dozen or more people by yourself, solo, in a non combat capital ship.

If you could, it would be evidence of an incredible game imbalance.

Bring someone with webs. Problem solved. This is not a single player game, it is a multiplayer game.

I am not sure anyone here is defending the mechanic based on the fact it has a defined counter-mechanic - they are defending it based on the fact it has been ruled as a valid and legal game mechanic by CCP.

If someone was actually designing bumping as a new game mechanic then of course there should be a "counter", but that isn't the case - it is an emergent property of the way the game was designed. So no "bumping" does not have a simple counter that someone can show you.

There are ways to deal with bumping as outlined earlier in this thread though. And if you think you are being harassed, then by all means petition it, (although I think you are going to have to wait more than 10 minutes before a GM takes you seriously). But otherwise, bumping has been ruled a normal game mechanic so it is something you will have to deal with using the in-game methods already discussed.

If you ever PvP you will discover Jamming.....You sit there totally helpless while they grind down your tank.

I admit it is not a very "fun" mechanic, but that is not the same as unfair.

Only someone who has never PvPed would say that. Just read the threads on a ECM tears.. I think i even started one. ECCM takes a mid slot. Drones? some ships don't have them.

You have your counters, you don't want to use them. You want to play this game where everything is perfectly safe. This is not that game. In PvP what is my counter to being vastly outnumbered? Please tell me its not a fleet of friends now is it?

So just get over it dude. Your freighter can get bumped and ganked. Don't like it? Well there is farmvil. I hear nothing can be taken from you in that game and that sounds like more your cup of tea.

So how does bumping damage your ship again? And yes you *do* have counters, you are just too lazy to use them. Intel even without friends or extra accounts.

But no, really what you want is to be 100% invulnerable in high sec.

Your not.

Get over it.

Oh and what was the counter to being outnumbered without having friends?

I must have a fleet of some 20+ ships to gank a freighter. Under your logic this mechanic is broken as I should be able to gank and loot said freighter solo.

Nothing prevents them from attempting to align...other than the ship bumping them risk free.

So, because I can suicide into the side of a freighter causing no damage and having zero chance of every killing it let alone looting its cargo you think you should get a way to beat the efforts of a fleet over 20+ people all by yourself?

Every month that goes by the more I think Idiocracy was a documentary.

*cough gate guns cough*

What in the hell are you talking about? I was answering their question.

Freighters aren't solely bumped to prevent warp, they are very often bumped off grid to avoid the onerous reach of gate guns.

It's an emergent mechanic resulting from the fundamental design of the game - just like so much warfare revolves around station docking mechanics, or gate camping because of how ships move around the game universe. Therefore, as CCP has ruled, it is working as intended.

I am not sure what you are trying to get out of continuing this conversation. Do you have a practical suggestion to make things better? If so please share it - or better yet post it in the F&I forum. You seem to just be ranting about something that has long been accepted as a valid mechanic/tactic in the game.

Perhaps we should confine our discussion the best practical ways to deal with bumping as the OP asked.

Using the same logic people should be banned from using guns in high sec because someone could follow you around and blow you up every time you undock. Also we need to ban the ability to loot so people cant follow you around and swipe your mission objectives. Oh and lets not forget about people mining out your rocks from under you everywhere you go.

Its exactly the same argument.


Nope, in order for the above to be classed as harassment the victim needs to be followed by the assailant everywhere he goes, the same rule applies to bumping.



Still not harassment. There are ways to get out of being bumped, you choosing to not use them does not mean CCP needs to step in to protect you.

Nanofibers and inertia stabilizers.

If I'm expected to have alts in order to fly my titan properly, why do you expect any different when flying the largest ships capable of flying in high security space.

Wow. Put a disclaimer on your post before you say stuff like that. I have a screwed up lung and I need a warning before I laugh that hard, I almost passed out.

To answer your question; Tell me where apart from avoiding ganking do you need an alt for freighter use? See same argument as you provide.

Alts needed for Titan usage:

5+ if you can't figure our what for then I suggest you somehow acquire the isk to buy one off of me.

Bumping does not in any way prevent you from warping.

It prevents you from aligning.

And most notably, the activation of a warp scrambler is the activation of an offensive module. That is what CONCORD exists to punish. Not any time you get your feelings hurt.

A wild Saber has appeared.

Yea, good luck getting dreadnought class weapons to track an orbiting destroyer at 5km.

Ever actually flown a capital ship?

Not people that know how to fly them and understand that they have to protect themselves.